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192 Grief for a Relationship That Never Truy Was: Surviving a Husband's Revenge Suicide | Shavaun Scott

June 04, 2026 • Nathalie Himmelrich • Season 19 • Episode 192

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Content note: This episode discusses suicide, intimate partner abuse, and traumatic loss.

In this mini-series episode, I revisit number eight in the top ten most listened-to episodes: my conversation with Shavaun Scott, a psychotherapist and author who shares the story of her husband’s revenge suicide — an act carried out on the very day she asked for a divorce, after 17 years in an abusive relationship.

Shavaun brings nearly 35 years of clinical experience and 20 years of personal reflection to a conversation about complicated grief, the moral injuries of suicide, the psychological toll of intimate partner abuse, and what healing actually looks like over time. Her memoir, Nightbird, explores this journey in full.

This is one of the most powerful and honest conversations in the podcast’s history.

Listen to the original episode: Episode 160 — Shavaun Scott | Revisiting Loss and Trauma 20 Years After a Revenge Suicide, and you can find all of Shavaun's information, including the links to her book and her website, on the same link.

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Chapters:

00:00 Welcome
00:49 Today's episode
01:27 Welcome to the Mini Series
02:50 Top 10 - Number 8
03:29 About Shavaun Scott
04:25 Husband's revenge suicide
06:43 What resonated with me
07:27 Why it resonated with listeners

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